BLOEMAERT, Abraham ( 1566-1651 )
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[....] La Place estoit ornée tout au tour de Statuës, que les Cabalistes avoient fait ériger à leurs Princes, entre lesquelles celle de Michelange occupoit le premier lieu, accompagné de celles du Titien, du Georgion, de Paul Veronese, du Tintoret, des Bassans, du Correge, du Guide, de Rubens, Vandick, Zuccaro, Lanfranc, Joseph Pin, Maistre Rousse, Saint Martin, Ribera, Pietre Teste, Freminet, Tempeste, Blœmaret, P. ….. V ….. B. …. V. … &c toutes posées sur leurs piedestaux, avec chacune une Inscription à leur loüange.
On ne voyait là ny les Apelles, ny les Timanthes, ny les Raphaëls, ny les Poussins, ny les Leonards de Vincy, ny les Jules Romains, ny les autres de ce merite, dont on ne se doit pas étonner, veu qu’ayans tous esté les Antagonistes de ces faux Peintres, les Cabalistes n’avoient garde de leur donner place parmi ceux dont ils ont méprisé les ouvrages & les maximes.
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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T: […] Maar zeg eens wat is Konst, en waar in bestaat uw oeffening?
S: Alles dat my voor komt te Schilderen, wat vraagen is dat?
T: Uyt de Geest ook?
S: Wat uyt de geest, wisje wasje, neen het Leeven, de Naarbootsinge der algemeene Natuur is myn Studie.
T: Hebt gy wel naar Playster leeren Teekenen?
S: Drie jaar heb ik geteekend, maar ‘k weet van geen playster, heb ook by myn patroon niets daar van gezien, maar na fraaje printen van Blommert, Berchem, Breugel, Rubens, en andere braave Konstenaars.
T: Naar Raphael, Karats, en Pousyn ook?
S: ‘k Geloof van ja, ik heb’er zoo naauw niet opgelet. Maar wel na Teekeningen van myn Meester.
T: Hebt gy meede op ’t Kollegie naar het Naakt Model geteekent?
S: Neen.
T: Wat meent gy dan met het Leeven te Schilderen?
S: Na Leevendige menschen, Man, Vrou, Kind, Schaapen, Ossen, Koeyen, Stoelen, Kassen; ja alles dat te pas komt.
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Et qu’appelez-vous bien graver, reprit Damon ? Est-ce couper le cuivre hardiment comme Goltius, ou poliment comme Bloëmart & Natalis ?
Ce n’est pas cela précisément, repliqua Pamphile, la premiere façon que vous attribuez à Goltius n’y est pas mesme fort propre ; puisque pour bien graver, il ne faut pas, s’il est possible, que le Graveur se fasse reconnoistre dans son Ouvrage : il doit simplement faire en sorte que l’Estampe gravée fasse le mesme effet (à la Couleur prés) que le Tableau qu’on se propose d’imiter.
Tous les Graveurs, dit Damon, ne font-ils pas cela ?
Non vrayement, repartit Pamphile, & il y en a peu qui le sachent faire, lors principalement qu’ils ont à graver un Tableau bien Colorié & bien entendu de Lumieres & d’Ombres. Ils en imitent les figures comme si elles estoient de Sculpture, & comme d'une même Couleur. Cependant les oppositions qui se trouvent dans les Tableaux par les differens tons de Couleurs, contribuant extrêmement à leur donner de la force, il n'est pas étonnant que leurs Estampes paroissent fades, & si bien loin de donner de l’estime pour les Originaux, elles ne servent qu'à les deshonorer. Ce n'est pas qu'il soit toûjours necessaire d'imiter les corps des Couleurs par les degrez du clair-obscur ; mais il se trouve souvent des occasions où il le faut faire indispensablement. Pour les manieres polies que vous attribuez à Bloëmart & à Natalis, elles sont sans contredit les plus agréables, quand les choses, dont je viens de vous parler, s'y rencontrent. Mais parmy toutes les Estampes où l’on voit ce bel artifice du clair-obscur, celles qui ont été gravées d’aprés les œuvres de Rubens, me semblent d’une beauté incomparable.
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[...] Ledit Marc Antoine [ndr : Marc-Antonio Raimondi] a tesmoigné par ses Œuvres qu’il estait fort exact imitateur de ses [ndr : Raphaël] Originaux, mais non pas de rechercher une grande liberté de burin, & beauté en l’ordre & arrangement des hacheures, fortifiement & affaiblissement d’icelles, suivant le pres & le loin à l’égard du Tableau ou section, ainsi au contraire tout y paroist d’une mesme force, qui est à dire comme si tout estoit en un mesme plan [...] [...] Chérubin Albert [ndr : Cherubino Alberti] a eu aussi bien que d’autres, plus de talent au dessein, qu’à la netteté & egalité des hacheures [...]. Augustin Carrache, estoit aussi extremement sçavant, & mesme avoit une tres belle conduite de hacheure [...] Le Villamene a eu à mon sens une grande egalité d’hacheures, liberté, franchise & netteté au maniment du burin, & grand agreément ; [...] [...] le digne Svanebourg [ndr : Swanenburg], dont plusieurs de ses Ouvrages me ravissent, par la grande netteté, tendresse & belle conduite des hachures qui s’y voyent, notamment en quelques Stampes qu’il a faites sur les Desseins de Bloemard et de Rubens. [...]
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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Et qu’appelez-vous bien graver, reprit Damon ? Est-ce couper le cuivre hardiment comme Goltius, ou poliment comme Bloëmart & Natalis ?
Ce n’est pas cela précisément, repliqua Pamphile, la premiere façon que vous attribuez à Goltius n’y est pas mesme fort propre ; puisque pour bien graver, il ne faut pas, s’il est possible, que le Graveur se fasse reconnoistre dans son Ouvrage : il doit simplement faire en sorte que l’Estampe gravée fasse le mesme effet (à la Couleur prés) que le Tableau qu’on se propose d’imiter.
Tous les Graveurs, dit Damon, ne font-ils pas cela ?
Non vrayement, repartit Pamphile, & il y en a peu qui le sachent faire, lors principalement qu’ils ont à graver un Tableau bien Colorié & bien entendu de Lumieres & d’Ombres. Ils en imitent les figures comme si elles estoient de Sculpture, & comme d'une même Couleur. Cependant les oppositions qui se trouvent dans les Tableaux par les differens tons de Couleurs, contribuant extrêmement à leur donner de la force, il n'est pas étonnant que leurs Estampes paroissent fades, & si bien loin de donner de l’estime pour les Originaux, elles ne servent qu'à les deshonorer. Ce n'est pas qu'il soit toûjours necessaire d'imiter les corps des Couleurs par les degrez du clair-obscur ; mais il se trouve souvent des occasions où il le faut faire indispensablement. Pour les manieres polies que vous attribuez à Bloëmart & à Natalis, elles sont sans contredit les plus agréables, quand les choses, dont je viens de vous parler, s'y rencontrent. Mais parmy toutes les Estampes où l’on voit ce bel artifice du clair-obscur, celles qui ont été gravées d’aprés les œuvres de Rubens, me semblent d’une beauté incomparable.
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T: […] Maar zeg eens wat is Konst, en waar in bestaat uw oeffening?
S: Alles dat my voor komt te Schilderen, wat vraagen is dat?
T: Uyt de Geest ook?
S: Wat uyt de geest, wisje wasje, neen het Leeven, de Naarbootsinge der algemeene Natuur is myn Studie.
T: Hebt gy wel naar Playster leeren Teekenen?
S: Drie jaar heb ik geteekend, maar ‘k weet van geen playster, heb ook by myn patroon niets daar van gezien, maar na fraaje printen van Blommert, Berchem, Breugel, Rubens, en andere braave Konstenaars.
T: Naar Raphael, Karats, en Pousyn ook?
S: ‘k Geloof van ja, ik heb’er zoo naauw niet opgelet. Maar wel na Teekeningen van myn Meester.
T: Hebt gy meede op ’t Kollegie naar het Naakt Model geteekent?
S: Neen.
T: Wat meent gy dan met het Leeven te Schilderen?
S: Na Leevendige menschen, Man, Vrou, Kind, Schaapen, Ossen, Koeyen, Stoelen, Kassen; ja alles dat te pas komt.
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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[...] Chérubin Albert [ndr : Cherubino Alberti] a eu aussi bien que d’autres, plus de talent au dessein, qu’à la netteté & egalité des hacheures [...]. Augustin Carrache, estoit aussi extremement sçavant, & mesme avoit une tres belle conduite de hacheure [...] Le Villamene a eu à mon sens une grande egalité d’hacheures, liberté, franchise & netteté au maniment du burin, & grand agreément ; Et aussi un tres-bon dessein entre plusieurs de ces beaux Ouvrages, il se voit une piece de l’invention de Paul Veroneze, d’une presentation de Jesus Christ au Temple [...]
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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[....] La Place estoit ornée tout au tour de Statuës, que les Cabalistes avoient fait ériger à leurs Princes, entre lesquelles celle de Michelange occupoit le premier lieu, accompagné de celles du Titien, du Georgion, de Paul Veronese, du Tintoret, des Bassans, du Correge, du Guide, de Rubens, Vandick, Zuccaro, Lanfranc, Joseph Pin, Maistre Rousse, Saint Martin, Ribera, Pietre Teste, Freminet, Tempeste, Blœmaret, P. ….. V ….. B. …. V. … &c toutes posées sur leurs piedestaux, avec chacune une Inscription à leur loüange.
On ne voyait là ny les Apelles, ny les Timanthes, ny les Raphaëls, ny les Poussins, ny les Leonards de Vincy, ny les Jules Romains, ny les autres de ce merite, dont on ne se doit pas étonner, veu qu’ayans tous esté les Antagonistes de ces faux Peintres, les Cabalistes n’avoient garde de leur donner place parmi ceux dont ils ont méprisé les ouvrages & les maximes.
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[...] Ledit Marc Antoine [ndr : Marc-Antonio Raimondi] a tesmoigné par ses Œuvres qu’il estait fort exact imitateur de ses [ndr : Raphaël] Originaux, mais non pas de rechercher une grande liberté de burin, & beauté en l’ordre & arrangement des hacheures, fortifiement & affaiblissement d’icelles, suivant le pres & le loin à l’égard du Tableau ou section, ainsi au contraire tout y paroist d’une mesme force, qui est à dire comme si tout estoit en un mesme plan [...] [...] Chérubin Albert [ndr : Cherubino Alberti] a eu aussi bien que d’autres, plus de talent au dessein, qu’à la netteté & egalité des hacheures [...]. Augustin Carrache, estoit aussi extremement sçavant, & mesme avoit une tres belle conduite de hacheure [...] Le Villamene a eu à mon sens une grande egalité d’hacheures, liberté, franchise & netteté au maniment du burin, & grand agreément ; [...] [...] le digne Svanebourg [ndr : Swanenburg], dont plusieurs de ses Ouvrages me ravissent, par la grande netteté, tendresse & belle conduite des hachures qui s’y voyent, notamment en quelques Stampes qu’il a faites sur les Desseins de Bloemard et de Rubens. [...]
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[...] Chérubin Albert [ndr : Cherubino Alberti] a eu aussi bien que d’autres, plus de talent au dessein, qu’à la netteté & egalité des hacheures [...]. Augustin Carrache, estoit aussi extremement sçavant, & mesme avoit une tres belle conduite de hacheure [...] Le Villamene a eu à mon sens une grande egalité d’hacheures, liberté, franchise & netteté au maniment du burin, & grand agreément ; Et aussi un tres-bon dessein entre plusieurs de ces beaux Ouvrages, il se voit une piece de l’invention de Paul Veroneze, d’une presentation de Jesus Christ au Temple [...]
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Of Colouring and Shadowing of History in Limning, and also other Necessary Observations.
The differences between Limning Pictures to the Life, or History, are Infinite ; notwithstanding the same Colours that are used for one do also for the other. And to particularise but part of what may be well said upon this Subject, would be too tedeous, if not endless. The most Remarkable is most certainly in the Variety of Colouring of things according to their several Sexes and Ages ; and also of Invention of ordering and well Stelling. All things which are to be represented, are many times according to the Humour, Judgement, and Discretion of the Master. We see generally in the Practice of the best and most Famous Painters, that they that do follow the Life, do tie themselves strictly and precisely to follow what they see in the Life, to immitate it as near as possible ; yet in their Inventions they assume to themselves such a Gentile Liberty and Licence, both in Colouring and Ordering ; but not so far as to run into those Extremes as Bartholomæus Spranger, Henry Goltzius, Abraham Blomart, and Outeawale, and several other Dutch Painters, run into about the Year 1588 ; for their Inventions at that time and Actions were so extravagantly strain’d and stretch to that degree beyond Nature, that made their Works seem to the Judicious Eye very Ridiculous, and contrary to Nature ; and at that time it was grown to such an Imposture or Mode, that he was counted no Master that could not strain his Actions in that extravagant manner. Which Mode was afterwards laid aside, and the Works that those Masters afterwards made were incomparably Good, by their Embracing more the Ancient Italian way of DESIGNING, which was more Modest, Gentile, and Graceful. So far they abused the Modest Licence, that so Graced the Admirable Works of Titian, Michael Angelo, and most of the Eminent Italians of that Age. And others have been as Extravagant in their Colouring. Which two Extremes may be both avoided by imitating that Divine Titian for Colouring, who was of all others esteemed the best.
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[....] La Place estoit ornée tout au tour de Statuës, que les Cabalistes avoient fait ériger à leurs Princes, entre lesquelles celle de Michelange occupoit le premier lieu, accompagné de celles du Titien, du Georgion, de Paul Veronese, du Tintoret, des Bassans, du Correge, du Guide, de Rubens, Vandick, Zuccaro, Lanfranc, Joseph Pin, Maistre Rousse, Saint Martin, Ribera, Pietre Teste, Freminet, Tempeste, Blœmaret, P. ….. V ….. B. …. V. … &c toutes posées sur leurs piedestaux, avec chacune une Inscription à leur loüange.
On ne voyait là ny les Apelles, ny les Timanthes, ny les Raphaëls, ny les Poussins, ny les Leonards de Vincy, ny les Jules Romains, ny les autres de ce merite, dont on ne se doit pas étonner, veu qu’ayans tous esté les Antagonistes de ces faux Peintres, les Cabalistes n’avoient garde de leur donner place parmi ceux dont ils ont méprisé les ouvrages & les maximes.
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Et qu’appelez-vous bien graver, reprit Damon ? Est-ce couper le cuivre hardiment comme Goltius, ou poliment comme Bloëmart & Natalis ?
Ce n’est pas cela précisément, repliqua Pamphile, la premiere façon que vous attribuez à Goltius n’y est pas mesme fort propre ; puisque pour bien graver, il ne faut pas, s’il est possible, que le Graveur se fasse reconnoistre dans son Ouvrage : il doit simplement faire en sorte que l’Estampe gravée fasse le mesme effet (à la Couleur prés) que le Tableau qu’on se propose d’imiter.
Tous les Graveurs, dit Damon, ne font-ils pas cela ?
Non vrayement, repartit Pamphile, & il y en a peu qui le sachent faire, lors principalement qu’ils ont à graver un Tableau bien Colorié & bien entendu de Lumieres & d’Ombres. Ils en imitent les figures comme si elles estoient de Sculpture, & comme d'une même Couleur. Cependant les oppositions qui se trouvent dans les Tableaux par les differens tons de Couleurs, contribuant extrêmement à leur donner de la force, il n'est pas étonnant que leurs Estampes paroissent fades, & si bien loin de donner de l’estime pour les Originaux, elles ne servent qu'à les deshonorer. Ce n'est pas qu'il soit toûjours necessaire d'imiter les corps des Couleurs par les degrez du clair-obscur ; mais il se trouve souvent des occasions où il le faut faire indispensablement. Pour les manieres polies que vous attribuez à Bloëmart & à Natalis, elles sont sans contredit les plus agréables, quand les choses, dont je viens de vous parler, s'y rencontrent. Mais parmy toutes les Estampes où l’on voit ce bel artifice du clair-obscur, celles qui ont été gravées d’aprés les œuvres de Rubens, me semblent d’une beauté incomparable.
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T: […] Maar zeg eens wat is Konst, en waar in bestaat uw oeffening?
S: Alles dat my voor komt te Schilderen, wat vraagen is dat?
T: Uyt de Geest ook?
S: Wat uyt de geest, wisje wasje, neen het Leeven, de Naarbootsinge der algemeene Natuur is myn Studie.
T: Hebt gy wel naar Playster leeren Teekenen?
S: Drie jaar heb ik geteekend, maar ‘k weet van geen playster, heb ook by myn patroon niets daar van gezien, maar na fraaje printen van Blommert, Berchem, Breugel, Rubens, en andere braave Konstenaars.
T: Naar Raphael, Karats, en Pousyn ook?
S: ‘k Geloof van ja, ik heb’er zoo naauw niet opgelet. Maar wel na Teekeningen van myn Meester.
T: Hebt gy meede op ’t Kollegie naar het Naakt Model geteekent?
S: Neen.
T: Wat meent gy dan met het Leeven te Schilderen?
S: Na Leevendige menschen, Man, Vrou, Kind, Schaapen, Ossen, Koeyen, Stoelen, Kassen; ja alles dat te pas komt.